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PM hints at prolonged summit talks
Prime Minister Girija Prasad Koirala has hinted that the upcoming summit talks between the ruling seven-party alliance (SPA) and the Maoists could take some time to reach common understanding.
http://www.nepalnews.com.np/archive/2006/oct/oct28/news07.php
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Santos
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Re: PM hints at prolonged summit talks
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October 28, 2006, 05:11:58 PM »
We have to bring no confidence motion against Girija Prasad Koirala and elect Narhari Acharya as NC Party President. Girija Prasad Koirala has got some money from the palace so every time, day and night he is supporting The Under World Drug Lord Gyannendra.
Girija forgot that Monarchy was removed from NC Party statute. "Paisa dekhe pachhi Mahadev ko pani TIN NETRA" saying goes with KOIRALA.
We have not forget TANAKPUR Kanda and Lauda Air Kanda. Every Nepalese knows Girija Prasad Koirala's promise and truethfulness and knows he is intentional liar.
Unless we removed GIRIJA from power same as Gyannedra the trouble and chaotic situation never, ever go away from Nepal.
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raj66
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October 28, 2006, 08:18:31 PM »
Quote from: Santos on October 28, 2006, 05:11:58 PM
We have to bring no confidence motion against Girija Prasad Koirala and elect Narhari Acharya as NC Party President. Girija Prasad Koirala has got some money from the palace so every time, day and night he is supporting The Under World Drug Lord Gyannendra.
Girija forgot that Monarchy was removed from NC Party statute. "Paisa dekhe pachhi Mahadev ko pani TIN NETRA" saying goes with KOIRALA.
We have not forget TANAKPUR Kanda and Lauda Air Kanda. Every Nepalese knows Girija Prasad Koirala's promise and truethfulness and knows he is intentional liar.
Unless we removed GIRIJA from power same as Gyannedra the trouble and chaotic situation never, ever go away from Nepal.
I totally agree with you....milder language next time please....otherwise all right thinking people are with you.
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Re: PM hints at prolonged summit talks
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October 28, 2006, 09:45:49 PM »
In Democracy everyone has right to speak their mind. I have been saying this for long only in the democracy you can oppose the democracy. But when you become powerful your view wouldn’t be personal anymore. Once you accept people’s help to get into the position after that your view become people’s views.
If Girija had said like ,king need space or NC can’t support republican democracy during the porters he would never be pm and the worst condition his would be like Parkash Koirala who was kick out from the party for supporting king. Girija has to know today he is PM because of those protest who said “down with monarchy system and we don’t want monarchy system”. During protest none of people were talking about limiting king’s power. They wanted monarchy system gone.
I support Girija’s right to express his view but if he wants to express his view then he should leave the pm post. Those people who died during protest didn’t die to keep monarchy system.
By the way no one protested to make Nepal secular state. But without much discussion Nepal become secular country. I am more worried with monarchy then religion.
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October 29, 2006, 12:45:05 AM »
From the ongoing scene and saying of different so called great politicians ranking from PM to Supremo,it has been clearly seen that no one is clear about the ideas to take ongoing issues into logical close by taking agenda to people.These tendecies and strategies only hamper the country's economic and democratic development which ultimately leads the nation into great trouble.In my view,Nepalese are unfortunate to have great and perspective political leader who can really lead the country.However,there is not as such accepted learder who is really won the heart and mind od common people but it is our reality that that we are unwilling accepting so called leaders as our fate maker,this is really a very troublesome and worse part of our life.
So far as the fate of monarchy is concerned,there is none other than people who can really reserve the right to decide the issue through their direct participation.PM may have is own though and vision about the monachy but it can not put into reality as of decision of PM and other parties,since none has fresh mandate of the people to do all the deeds,what they can do at moment is to create an atmosphere to conduct the CA election and referendom in a true free and feraless manner without any interference from the any party with help of weapons and vandalists rest of all findamental issues will be settled by people and their fresh mandated representative.PM has his own logic but in my view,the issue of monaechy must be decided by referendom where every one can directly participate to settle to main and very crucial issue of country and people.If the basic thing is not dealt very properly there will be great trouble and headache in the country which may lead to very unwanted situation resulting in grteat misery.Jai Nepal !
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October 29, 2006, 02:18:50 AM »
I agree there are some issues which need to be decided by referendums. One of those issues was if Nepal should be secular country or not. Other issue would be who would have power president or prime minter. Other would be what should we do with the saving from dismantling monarchy system. Doing referendum on monarchy system is like doing referendum on caste system. To save one family status is waste of time money and effort. Keeping monarchy gives benefit to one family and getting rid of it helps 1000s of families.
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October 29, 2006, 02:47:03 AM »
This is all Bullshit!!! Every one knows what they are doing................. But evryone is silent just like the last fifyteen years of dark period of Nepal.
If you talk about Democracy.... Nepal never experience real Democracy in its History. Its political and economic conditions was never Democratic. Feudalism still exist nomatter whose Government it was or it. Where is abosolute Democracy..................
I don't see it a road ahead. SPAM are hypocrates. Monarchy is a failure. Public are Dumb. Only Lord Pashupati Nath Can save us.
Good Luck to my Country Men
Pran Bhanda Pyaro Lagchha Mero Desh KataKata......................
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raj66
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October 29, 2006, 06:14:38 AM »
Quote from: arajpandey on October 29, 2006, 02:47:03 AM
This is all Bullshit!!! Every one knows what they are doing................. But evryone is silent just like the last fifyteen years of dark period of Nepal.
If you talk about Democracy.... Nepal never experience real Democracy in its History. Its political and economic conditions was never Democratic. Feudalism still exist nomatter whose Government it was or it. Where is abosolute Democracy..................
I don't see it a road ahead. SPAM are hypocrates. Monarchy is a failure. Public are Dumb. Only Lord Pashupati Nath Can save us.
Good Luck to my Country Men
Pran Bhanda Pyaro Lagchha Mero Desh KataKata......................
LET US BE A LITTLE MORE PATIENT....AS MENTIONED ABOVE ALL OF US ARE ENTITLED TO INDIVIDUAL OPINIONS...BUT ULTIMATELY WHAT THE MAJOIRITY DECIDES STICKS.AS SWAPNIL PUT IT SOMEWHERE I TEND TO DRAG IN ISSUES OUT OF CONTEXT-MAYBE HE IS RIGHT.LET US SEE IF THE MAOISTS ARMS ARE CONFINED,AND INTERIM GOVERNMENT FORMED AND THE CA CONSTITUTED.WE CAN TALK ABOUT RELIGON AND MONARCHY AFTER THAT. GP, YOU AND OTHERS HAVE A RIGHT TO GO FOR CEREMONIAL MONARCHY AND WE THE RIGHT TO SEEK THE END OF MONARCHY.SIMILIARLY ALL ARE FREE TO PRACTISE RELIGONS OF THEIR CHOICE AS LONG AS MONEY IS NOT USED TO CONVERT PEOPLE.
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Re: PM hints at prolonged summit talks
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October 29, 2006, 06:56:54 AM »
LET US BE A LITTLE MORE PATIENT....AS MENTIONED ABOVE ALL OF US ARE ENTITLED TO INDIVIDUAL OPINIONS...BUT ULTIMATELY WHAT THE MAJOIRITY DECIDES STICKS.AS SWAPNIL PUT IT SOMEWHERE I TEND TO DRAG IN ISSUES OUT OF CONTEXT-MAYBE HE IS RIGHT.LET US SEE IF THE MAOISTS ARMS ARE CONFINED,AND INTERIM GOVERNMENT FORMED AND THE CA CONSTITUTED.WE CAN TALK ABOUT RELIGON AND MONARCHY AFTER THAT. GP, YOU AND OTHERS HAVE A RIGHT TO GO FOR CEREMONIAL MONARCHY AND WE THE RIGHT TO SEEK THE END OF MONARCHY.SIMILIARLY ALL ARE FREE TO PRACTISE RELIGONS OF THEIR CHOICE AS LONG AS MONEY IS NOT USED TO CONVERT PEOPLE.
Raj 66,
The biggest mistake these so called SPA did was to Pronounce itself Supreme and Announce Nepal a Secular State which was uncalled for and un-necessary and suicidal. In our country we have never had any religion problem and every one has been living side by side. These kind of childish act and for cheap popularity stunt destroys Nations.
And we witness this every day in the world, Look in IRAQ where fellow muslims are murdering fellow muslims just becuase one sunni and other shites, what is all these for? Similarly, why should bring up such sensitive issuses like Dalits, Religion and all crap does not need to be provoked, and ignited to be poured rocket fuel once it does happen.
Main Thing, is MAOISTS MUST BE DEFEATED by Force, because we all know, SPA are idiots and they have dug up their own grave by supporting Maoist Terrorists activities and rewarding them immunity even before starting the Peace talks. These SPA idiots are failure and they are loosing badly as they lack Education, Vision, Ethics & Sincerity. We must refuse Maoists existence. Hope you understand and again do not create an excuse to bring Monarchy in your view out of context.
Jai Nepal
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Re: PM hints at prolonged summit talks
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October 29, 2006, 07:09:09 AM »
Quote from: PatriotNepali on October 29, 2006, 06:56:54 AM
LET US BE A LITTLE MORE PATIENT....AS MENTIONED ABOVE ALL OF US ARE ENTITLED TO INDIVIDUAL OPINIONS...BUT ULTIMATELY WHAT THE MAJOIRITY DECIDES STICKS.AS SWAPNIL PUT IT SOMEWHERE I TEND TO DRAG IN ISSUES OUT OF CONTEXT-MAYBE HE IS RIGHT.LET US SEE IF THE MAOISTS ARMS ARE CONFINED,AND INTERIM GOVERNMENT FORMED AND THE CA CONSTITUTED.WE CAN TALK ABOUT RELIGON AND MONARCHY AFTER THAT. GP, YOU AND OTHERS HAVE A RIGHT TO GO FOR CEREMONIAL MONARCHY AND WE THE RIGHT TO SEEK THE END OF MONARCHY.SIMILIARLY ALL ARE FREE TO PRACTISE RELIGONS OF THEIR CHOICE AS LONG AS MONEY IS NOT USED TO CONVERT PEOPLE.
Raj 66,
The biggest mistake these so called SPA did was to Pronounce itself Supreme and Announce Nepal a Secular State which was uncalled for and un-necessary and suicidal. In our country we have never had any religion problem and every one has been living side by side. These kind of childish act and for cheap popularity stunt destroys Nations.
And we witness this every day in the world, Look in IRAQ where fellow muslims are murdering fellow muslims just becuase one sunni and other shites, what is all these for? Similarly, why should bring up such sensitive issuses like Dalits, Religion and all crap does not need to be provoked, and ignited to be poured rocket fuel once it does happen.
Main Thing, is MAOISTS MUST BE DEFEATED by Force, because we all know, SPA are idiots and they have dug up their own grave by supporting Maoist Terrorists activities and rewarding them immunity even before starting the Peace talks. These SPA idiots are failure and they are loosing badly as they lack Education, Vision, Ethics & Sincerity. We must refuse Maoists existence. Hope you understand and again do not create an excuse to bring Monarchy in your view out of context.
Jai Nepal
That is fine , we will discuss issues as they come up.We disagree strongly on key key issues but I am sure a healthy debate is possible when issues pop up. I am for a republic but promise you that the issue will be discussed only when it demands attention.
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kiran1
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Re: PM hints at prolonged summit talks
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October 29, 2006, 08:52:05 AM »
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Nepali Time – Always delays for any good Accomplishment
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It is indeed a misfortune for Nepal not to have a healthy and a dynamic leader who has a clear vision and who can deliver people’s aspiration and who can confidently lead the country at this transitional period. Instead, we had no choice but the frail old man GP Koirala who became the Prime Minister.
Prime Minister Koirala knows that his future is uncertain while Congress party remains divided. Because of this, Koirala wanted to have unification of Congress Party and with the hope of fostering royalists support he wanted to retain monarchy institution. It looks like he will keep on delaying the peace process till he is not confident of winning power back.
People want to see the following two major issues to be resolved in the peace summit:
1. The fate of the Monarchy institution
2. Modality of Proportional Representative government based on Federal Republic or Democratic Republic
The main sticking point is the fate of the monarchy institution. We have a rich king in the poor country. The monarchy institution has no place in 21 century Nepal. It has to be abolished before we can expect any peace in the country.
The people must decide the fate of the monarchy by the referendum and it should be conducted side by side with the election of the Constituent Assembly.
The next sticking point is Maoists who must dissociate publicly from violence and extortion first before they are allowed to join Interim Government. The UN authority must be given full control of both armies during the election of Constituent Assembly.
We can keep our peace and freedom (Democracy) only when Maoists respect “Ballots” and stop worshiping “Guns”.
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Re: PM hints at prolonged summit talks
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October 29, 2006, 09:24:24 AM »
My question is why monarchy system has to be decided by referendum but not the religious matter. Look at protest and discussion people were not protesting for secular state. But they were protesting for the abolishing monarchy system. If monarchy system (which I feel as state sponsored discrimination) needs referendum then how come other discriminated practice were taken out without referendum.
Again Mr Girija has right to speak his mind but he should have spoken before becoming as PM. He was not hand pick pm for king. Now when I read his statement about monarchy it reminds spy of the pnachayat time. During panchayat time there were people who support pancyat used to go out with people were opposing pancyat. To report who were the people opposing panchyat. It looks like he cares more about king then people.
If he wants to save king then leave the pm post and ask vote to save monarchy.
None elected has no right to be head of state in any fashion
Democratic Republic Nepal Jindabad
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