Nationality not in crisis: VP Jha

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Nationality not in crisis: VP Jha

Newly elected vice president of Nepal Parmananda Jha has said that Nepal's nationality is not in crisis even as leaders of some political parties are talking about impending threat to nationality.

http://www.nepalnews.com/archive/2008/jul/jul22/news13.php

[frankenstein]

Nationality ko kura liyera senti nahunus  VP ji Nationality lai kehi hunna, pahile desh ko bikas kasari garne tyo sochnus.

[Chintit Nepali]

   Its not only people who found so many clues and evidences including such issues of easy providing citizenship to thousands non-Nepalis,unheakthy demnad of group entry in NA,unnaturally raising of regionalism and communinalism based politics,availability of presidency and vice-presidency felt inadequate and raising the voices to PM also out of having position of fourth in CA election,the comments and concern shoed by leaders of major largest political parties including Maoist Supremo leader are strong enough for the threatening of unity and nationality.
 Hon.VP is also advised to read this week " Dristi " weekly,if not read,for issues like nationality and vice-presidency,then only needs to bring the opinion public about the current status of nationa's unity and nationality.
Jaya Nepal !

[Avishek]

i just want to say that mr prachanda or what ever he is a mental pecent he need a doctor.he use to say any thing that come in his mouth now saying that there is foren hand in the politics.before he use to say that its darbarea sareyantra.mr dahal first be confedent about your saying.you are just like the lezzard that changes calour by seeing the condition.plizzzzzz some one take him to the doctor.if he will stay out side then if bad for the nation.

[bhyagute]

Hon. VPju,
What the majority of people of Nepal who are proud of being Nepalis or people of Nepal expect from all of you as their leaders not to make this country like Sikkim. Let's not talk about pahadias or madhises, but talk about unity, integrity and dedication to this beautiful nation. Otherwise we all will lose our identity and respect we still have in the international arena.
May God give subudhi to all of our leaders!

[bhyagute]

Hon. VPju,
What the majority of people of Nepal who are proud of being Nepalis or people of Nepal expect from all of you as their leaders not to make this country like Sikkim. Let's not talk about pahadias or madhises, but talk about unity, integrity and dedication to this beautiful nation. Otherwise we all will lose our identity and respect we still have in the international arena.
May God give subudhi to all of our leaders!

[nc01sadh]

We are seeing the true face of nepalese polictical leaders today. Although NC,UML have lost their legitimacy to lead the new government, they have formed an alliance with MJF to lead a new government. They were hungry for power yesterday and they are hungry for power today. The country is going nowhere if these parties continue to run the government. Corruption,passive economic reforms,same governance bolstered by corruption scandals.The countries that were at the same level with nepal in terms of economic development have had total transformation in their development but nepal is at the same level as it was 20 years ago. More migration from the country for foreign employment,deteriorating health sector,education. F##k  polictical parties of this country, i am sick and tired of them.

[balkrishnajha]

Dear friends,

Here, I want to ask a question to the self proclaimed 'nationalists'. What is nationalism? Is it being anti something or is it being loyal to a nation? In my view, it is simply a love and sincerity towards the nation. Now, where does the controversy come regarding the doubt of Mr. Jha being a true Nationalist? I dont know how he disproved his loyalty to the nation. Did he sell some territories, or did he signed a secret bill, or did he sell the intelligence information to other countries? However, there are so many 'Nepalese', who speak in Nepali and have signed the 'unequal' treaties. Is nepalese language a bail to a crime, and hindi a non-bailable crime?

I dont think that language can be any means of proving nationality. Many national figures of different countries speak in national languages of other countries. Does that simply mean that they are 'sold and bought' for the countries whose national language was spoken? In recent Indian Parliament, Rahul Gandhi was observed speaking in English. Does that mean he sold his nationality and country's pride?

I would also like to remind my friends that, Language can never ever belong to any country. Language is only associated with communication and between people.

Also, as none of us can deny the fact that Hindi is a Lingua Franca of madhes/tarai. Personally me, I speak Maithili. But if i am to speak to a person speaking awadhi, I would prefer Hindi than looking stupid by discovering my own version of awadhi which i have hardly spoken. And speaking with tharus would be more complex. Therefore, i would expect the awadhi speaking guy or a tharu to speak in Hindi, because there would be comparitively less error in speaking and understanding Hindi than one trying the language that is relatively more 'difficult' to comprehend.

The non-madhesi people just pretend not to understand hindi. If the TV cable programmes and movies can be watched and enjoyed in Hindi, I dont think the speech/oath of 4 mins cannot be. Hindi can be understood by other nepalese (non madhesis) too. Therefore, to promote equality and non-partisan with any language and to show the neutrality, Mr. Jha did the right thing to use the language that could be understood my all the nepalese. Had he spoken in Nepali, the madhesis could not have understood. Had he spoken in Maithilee, the Pahadis, Tharus, and others must not have understood. Therefore, it can be argued that not Nepali, but Hindi is the language to fill the gap that exists between a pahadi and a madhesi. Hindi is the lingua franca of whole Nepal. And the beauty is that Hindi belongs to none.

I must remind here again that before the rule of King Mahendra, Hindi was the language used in Education, Courts and general communication.  It was the doctrine of King Mahendra to alienate the madhesis by dominating Hindi and pushing the Nepali language as only official language. Thus automatically, the madhesis not knowing Nepali was alienated from communication to the state organs. This should be rectified at least now.

Therefore, I conclude that lets all not get disturbed by the fact that Hindi is the language of India. Some interest groups try to provoke this issue for their benefit. But once, if thought with patience and without being biased, we will know the logic.



Comments are welcome.

Regards,
Bal Krishna Jha
balkrishnajha@gmail.com

[Chintit Nepali]

 It seems that the saparate independent identity of nation is really in the state of great danger and threat since the external force who does not like Nepal as an independen statet and who is in a process to make this great and beautiful nation either Skkimising if not Bhutanising,has already created the supportive steps like one oath in foreign lanhuage.So,very hard and challenging time for those Nepali to work hard to check up this types of happenings in future for safe guarding our separate independent identity.
  Its al bare fact that almost all the current political leaders who are agessively involving in making so called new Nepal,have seen kind of acceptance among themselves of being some ways used to of external force,but the reality is that they are being hesistant to oppenly accept the same because of power greediness.
Jay Nepal !

[Phusang]

A triangle of Maoist-Sood-NC along with UML has finished Nepal. This pyramid will assist to merge nepal into India. MJF and TMLP are group of Hooligans who are nourished to destroy Nepal's identity. There is nothing to say . GY had already devast Nepal. Maoist are born to demolish Nepal. NC UML help to suck Nation.

THere is only hope if we demand justice against humanity for all those who are involved in inhuman behavior.

[pasikot]

Mr.Jha is serving Indian interest through the civer up of Nepali nationality.The American made Upendra Yadav and Indian made mahanta Thakur are real danger for Nepali nationality.Mr. Jha is a mere pawn of these twos.It is our duty and responsibility to defend our souvrinty and national integrity by ourself.Because when these things being challenged by foreign forces these all chaps will mingle up with Dhoti Kurta and Gamchhas.
In my view NC and UML has their hands on this matter.Had not they agreed with Upendra Yadav to defeat Maoist candidate this would not have happened.So before Mr. Jha say something the these two parties must appolosize to people for their role to creat this terrible situation.As far as concern to Mr. Jha he must be impeached immidiately.
If we look  on the episode carefully we found that the Maoist were correct.They had been begging for almost three months  to get consensus on second generation leader for the president.But the power hunger Girija and the greatest conspirator Jhalana Khanal never let the situation to happen.Altimately They both had been defeated but Tha Maoist to could not trumph it.In this game the Indian design got success.The taking oath drama was a indicator of this tragedy.
Foreign forces are trying to make Girija next PM.My fellow countrymen it is against the will of People and against the interim constitution.The most curropted chap in  contemporary history of our nation must not be allowed to be our PM.We have to take to street to oppose it with courage and bravery.We must not accept any other chap as our PM except Prachanda.This is the people`s verdict.
Tri party alliance ia an inholy alliance created by the Jhale , Girije and Upendre.Sautako ris le logneko kakhma mutle yi chandal choukadlai thik parnu parchha.
Pasikot

[LGB]

For Mr.Balkrishna Jha
Very Good! i love you guts! then tomorrow Mr.Tsiring become President or VP or PM or whatever and start communicate in Tebaten Language or Mr.Gurung  or Mr.Thapa or......? very simple! why not all the cabinet member start communicating each other in their own mother tongue? why do we need to talk in Nepali? haina Mr Jha? Unity ko ta kura chodnus yesari nai bikhandit hundai jaun ramro suggestion! and how on earth u think that the all the people frm Pahari or Himalayan range know Hindi? U might have watched the Hindi TV serial 24hrs a day don't forget all the people from Nepal are not bordered to India or have Telivision to watch YOUR mother language TVserial. I am so ashamed of having such a Political leader who doesn't even have a such a minor sense or sensibility! I am ashamed that we have a leader who has such narrow thought. we don't need to know if he has sold or signed so and so... we nepali are proud of our language Mr.Jha we don't need foreign language to bridge among us.
 

[LGB]

......oh sorry u might not have understand what i have written in Nepali on my comment.. i was saying "Bhand mei jayen Hindi language Nepali ko samjhane ke liye....i do watch Hindi serial too but Hindi is not my mother language its a mere source of entertainment.. i do watch English,Chinese or Korean movies or serials but sorry i can't use them as my National language.

Dear friends,

Here, I want to ask a question to the self proclaimed 'nationalists'. What is nationalism? Is it being anti something or is it being loyal to a nation? In my view, it is simply a love and sincerity towards the nation. Now, where does the controversy come regarding the doubt of Mr. Jha being a true Nationalist? I dont know how he disproved his loyalty to the nation. Did he sell some territories, or did he signed a secret bill, or did he sell the intelligence information to other countries? However, there are so many 'Nepalese', who speak in Nepali and have signed the 'unequal' treaties. Is nepalese language a bail to a crime, and hindi a non-bailable crime?

I dont think that language can be any means of proving nationality. Many national figures of different countries speak in national languages of other countries. Does that simply mean that they are 'sold and bought' for the countries whose national language was spoken? In recent Indian Parliament, Rahul Gandhi was observed speaking in English. Does that mean he sold his nationality and country's pride?

I would also like to remind my friends that, Language can never ever belong to any country. Language is only associated with communication and between people.

Also, as none of us can deny the fact that Hindi is a Lingua Franca of madhes/tarai. Personally me, I speak Maithili. But if i am to speak to a person speaking awadhi, I would prefer Hindi than looking stupid by discovering my own version of awadhi which i have hardly spoken. And speaking with tharus would be more complex. Therefore, i would expect the awadhi speaking guy or a tharu to speak in Hindi, because there would be comparitively less error in speaking and understanding Hindi than one trying the language that is relatively more 'difficult' to comprehend.

The non-madhesi people just pretend not to understand hindi. If the TV cable programmes and movies can be watched and enjoyed in Hindi, I dont think the speech/oath of 4 mins cannot be. Hindi can be understood by other nepalese (non madhesis) too. Therefore, to promote equality and non-partisan with any language and to show the neutrality, Mr. Jha did the right thing to use the language that could be understood my all the nepalese. Had he spoken in Nepali, the madhesis could not have understood. Had he spoken in Maithilee, the Pahadis, Tharus, and others must not have understood. Therefore, it can be argued that not Nepali, but Hindi is the language to fill the gap that exists between a pahadi and a madhesi. Hindi is the lingua franca of whole Nepal. And the beauty is that Hindi belongs to none.

I must remind here again that before the rule of King Mahendra, Hindi was the language used in Education, Courts and general communication.  It was the doctrine of King Mahendra to alienate the madhesis by dominating Hindi and pushing the Nepali language as only official language. Thus automatically, the madhesis not knowing Nepali was alienated from communication to the state organs. This should be rectified at least now.

Therefore, I conclude that lets all not get disturbed by the fact that Hindi is the language of India. Some interest groups try to provoke this issue for their benefit. But once, if thought with patience and without being biased, we will know the logic.



Comments are welcome.

Regards,
Bal Krishna Jha
balkrishnajha@gmail.com

[markus]

" from Mr Balkrishna Jha"
Also, as none of us can deny the fact that Hindi is a Lingua Franca of madhes/tarai. Personally me, I speak Maithili. But if i am to speak to a person speaking awadhi, I would prefer Hindi than looking stupid by discovering my own version of awadhi which i have hardly spoken. And speaking with tharus would be more complex. Therefore, i would expect the awadhi speaking guy or a tharu to speak in Hindi, because there would be comparitively less error in speaking and understanding Hindi than one trying the language that is relatively more 'difficult' to comprehend.

well Mr Jha your explanation was one sided, you look the part from your side whether you  love hindi language rather than your mother tongue or the national language, according to you hindi language is the means of communication or understood from people all over Nepal, thats only your thought sorry for that, my question to you is that why would you prefer hindi while communicating to a tharu speaking person or awadhi speaking person or even maithili speaking person, when there is a national language which binds every people no matter what the dialect or language they speak, everybody needs to know the national language, and you were giving the example of Mr Rahul gandhi, speaking english, and for your kind information english is spoken all over the world so he might have thought that is the better means of communication,  if he had spoken italian then it was something different and that would be the same as that of nepal VPs. lets not go far away, lets take an example of india during the oath taking ceremony if most of the prime minister take oath in Punjabi then do you think all the other people in india understand him because punjabi songs are famous, everybody listen to it.  every state in india has their own state language, but when it comes to a nation they speak hindi, in the same way we also have many language and when it comes to a nation we have our own NEPALI LANGUAGE

EVEN MR UDIT NARAYAN JHA COULD COMMENT AMONG THE CROWD OF INDIAN IDOL COMPETION IN NEPALI, WHAT WAS WRONG WITH HIM, EVEN THE PRESIDENT COULD TAKE THE OATH IN NEPALI, WHO ALSO BELONGS TO THE MADHESI COMMUNITY, WHAT WAS WRONG WITH THE VP, HE HIMSELF BEING A JUDGE, DID NOT KNEW THAT ACCORDING TO THE CONSTITTUTION OR LAW OATH CAN BE TAKEN IN NATIONAL LANGUAGE OR IN MOTHER TONGUE, OR HE FORGOT THAT HE WAS TAKING THE OATH IN NEPAL, OR HE THINK WE NEPALI ARE JUST MERE SPECTATOR.


any way lets hope he could correct himself and work for the people and the land,

and always keep in mind that they are the one who made him climb high and they are the one who could pull him down too.

anyway Mr jha every body in Nepal doesnot watch hindi movei nor listen to hindi , i know hindi but that does not mean that each and every member in my family knows hindi, when i used to visit the terai area and talk to people in hindi, they would prefer to talk in nepali, whether it be biratnagar, birgunj, gaur, krishnanagar, chanauta, nepalgunj, dhangadi or mahendranagar
dont assume that everybody watch star plus buddy.


 
HINDI LANGUAGE " I LIKE IT" BUT IF YOU GO TO SOUTHERN INDIA YOU WOULD HERE " I CANNOT UNDERSTAND HINDI PLEASE SPEAK IN ENGLISH"

IF YOU REALLY LOVE HINDI AT FIRST GO AND TEACH EVERYBODY IN INDIA HINDI AND TILL THEN WE WOULD DECIDE WHETHER HINDI IS UNDERSTOOD IN NEPAL OR NOT.


JAY NEPAL SUNDER SHANT BISHAL
NETA HARU BANAYE DESH KO BEHAL.

[Phusang]

I think mr pasikot is fooling himself.... there shouldnot be any right reason to bring common Nepalese to street ....Nepalese has forgot what is good for Nepal.... they vote MB, and got a good servant for Sood, .... is not that enough  to say that Prachanda has no right to be PM..... and again calling people for demolition... they will come donot woryy....its fashion of Nepalese people not to see two sides of coin ..... they are horse of cart .... sorry for saying this... but its true... U people should  be ashamed to say that Prachanda is only rt guy to be PM... there is nothing to laugh nor to mourn on your request .
Prachanda is not a personality who can handle nepalese environment.  If he had he would have shown it during President election... He is also lickers of liquors...


ANYWAY FAMOUS PEOPLE TO BEAT AND KILLED  go and killed other party's leader... u guys will rule nepal.