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Prachanda reaffirms his presidential dream
Despite the jeers his claim to become the "first president of republican Nepal" has received from within the SPA, Maoist chairman Prachanda has once again articulated his presidential dream.
http://www.nepalnews.com.np/archive/2008/feb/feb16/news05.php
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Quote from: npnews on February 16, 2008, 06:09:22 PM
Prachanda reaffirms his presidential dream
Despite the jeers his claim to become the "first president of republican Nepal" has received from within the SPA, Maoist chairman Prachanda has once again articulated his presidential dream.
http://www.nepalnews.com.np/archive/2008/feb/feb16/news05.php
Current affairs going in the country point out only one fact that, we as a people have been forced to accept the mandate formulated by those who went into the JUNGLE and brought us so called change. One fact should be understood that a reform achieved from jungle is not acceptable to any community around the globe. In many sense, Maoists are right. Their demands are acceptable but when it comes to scrapping Monarchy, the road stops there. And when Mr. Prachanda dreams the presidency, there will be a lot of Nathu Ram Godse who wants to become the first assassin to the first president. Therefore, human nature and human expectations cannot be achieved no matter what we do but since our civilization is based upon only fact of Kingship, it shouldn’t be abolished
For last two millennia or before, human history has always been written under the legend of Kings and Knights. And for last two millennia, our civilization has seen autocracies committed by these legends. But in the same manner we also have witnessed lots of Legends who were committed to serving people and nation. One of them was His Highness King Prithivi Narayan Shah.
I don't want to go into the detailed facts and analysis of the history of Nepal but would like to remind myself that without his effort 250 years ago, it wouldn't have been possible for me to proudly address myself as a Nepali. It was his effort, in bad or good, to unite and established a country called Nepal. After him, his successor had done nothing but commit autocracies but my opinion says, that shouldn't be a reason to completely abolish the entire institution which we proudly represent.
I don’t know what are the feeling cumulating inside the country right now but if you ask a Nepali living abroad how much a King is needed to represent a Nepali in a world arena, you will find an answer.
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Let him dream who cares. It is the people who will decide and not any Tom Dick and Harry.
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Perhaps no one needs to worry or be terrorized by Prachanda being one of the candidate for the head of the state.This would give a right messaage inside and outside the country that an ordinary citizen who has a political ideology and political determination to serve the people is going to be elected by the Adult franchise.It's obviously going to be a reliable democratic pratice infront of the democratic world;Europe,Canada,switzerland,India(except hindu ultra radicals).Who have always thought,if ever in life,we'd be able to get rid of Royal labyrinth of which we're unfortunately the social prisioners,the royal brigade took us for grant ,for 250 years they played the country as if it were their personal gamble.Having the most poor people in the country,they enjoyed an extremely luxurious life and succeeded to gather an immense wealth of which there're not any accurate record and finally made us be dependent on foreign aids.Let's not be the jailbirds of this dynasty who has lost its relevance because of their own deeds,royal massacre,prohibition on freedom,drunkard princes killing general people and many more things that would take time and space to explain it here.I'll have to say clearly that in western world he is known as despotic,incoherent and a hindu radical who is ready to die and kill for the sake of ultra hinduism,In europe I've not found any newspaper praising him for being the King of poor nepali people.So,let's not doubt about his image infront of democratic people.He might have some western friends and that's not a surprise but the one who would be supporting him to cease with the state power,is for sure,might be non other than a snob who is trapped in royal hospitality inside the palace.For educated people the HUMAN ZOO is no more interesting.He is not my king because they've never thought of poor and needy children.He is not my God because a god never treats people according to their surnames,and make fun of women,obliguing them to be males' slaves.His forefathers aren't my ideals because they imposed their norms to reign upon the peaceful cultural population;newars,maithilis in names of national unity.now many of our newari and other friends who have their mother tongue other than nepali rarely speaks and can write their idiom.Their languages are unfortunately less considerable for these imperialist nepali speaking royal family.For the first time in our history we'll write our consititution amongst all.This is truely something that most democratic countries would like to hear.for them now they don't need to feed this Monarchy instead of needy and poor people.Many times my colleagues used to say"really we don't understand how these poor countries come to ask for help when they've dictators and expensive Kings in their own country".now at least I can say that now we protest it openly and do whatever comes peacefully to abolish them forever.
Prachanda would be 100 times better than this despotic king although there is a long way ahead for maoists to reach upto there.Frankly speaking they improve from their past mistakes.Yes,perhaps if maintained their attitudes,.they can have a majority with leftists forces.But it's not so easy as it is being dreamed by them.Hard work ,less ostentatious activities and warm confidence are some points they need to take into consideration while approaching people.I give them moral support as they fought against the social discrimination though i differ on their style of accomplishing it bynow.We ought to do much more to erradicate feudalism,casteism and nepotism which are the long runned social curse in our society and it can't go like this in a modern country.The NC,UML,RPP,RJP are the politcal factions who prefer to be lived in this system.Their leaders do follow casteism,nepotism and religious discrimination(they get and obligue to marry between their cast,many have got more than two wives,they've house maids who normally belong to so called dalits and barrs them to enter into their kitchen,follow blindly the religious extremism by sacrificing animals,devoting children etc etc.żAre they going to give a real change?Of course not even in my dreams.The hope now relys on young generation who will have to fight the last but the effective one to make nepal free of discrimination and social disparities,but by our votes,there is no need of waging arm struggle.we do have enough politcal population and we need to defeat all these old and tired political actors who are the continuation of old regime.
MAOISTS ARE THE NECESSARY BUT NOT THE SUFFICIENT FORCE TO LEAD THE COUNTRY INTO THE JUST and PROSPEROUS STATE.
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Terrorist Leader THUG PUSHPE aka PRACHANDE,
Keep dreaming you Rascal. You will end up meeiting YUMRAj before asking him to Make you KEEP dreaming.
PN
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The Maoist have already locked their weapons and militants in UN controlled cantonments.They are genuinely particapiting in nonviolance people`s movement.They have set their goal very clearly and appealing the Nepali people to support and elect them to acieve that goal so that they would be able to transform the inpoverished nation into just,based on equality, and prosperous nation.So the party has selected Mr. Prachanda as of its leader to complete the task.So what is whonr here?During the second parliamentary election in 2057 the Nepali Congress had also been projected Mr. KP Bhattarai as its leader and he successfully lead the NC to win the election.Therefore it is their very right to elect and select any person as their leader.This is called democracy.If we believe in people`s power then we must not prevent this to happen.If he or his party have no support of people he would lose the election and the story will be finished.People should not creat headache by tightining a rope in their head.Let the people to decide.
But my fellow countrymen, the task of holding CA election is not that much easy as we are thinking.There are many external and internal forces playing the cards.See what is happening in terai and in some hilly district in eastern resion and the defection of Mahanta Thakur and other Terian leaders from the political parties.The king has recently spoken up and in the small rightist parties have created a front in the leadership of Surya Bahadur Thapa to challange the SPA.The Emergence of Sujata as one of the power centres inside the NC and the organised group of Central comittee members of NC voicing concern regarding the king`s faith are not the simple matters.The very chances is that the democratic coup de`ta is very possible.If that happened no need to say we will be pushed into another demotratic slavery.The guns will be put on the shoulde of either Sujata Jhost or Sher Bahadur Deuba and the firing finger on the trigger will be of somebody else like what happened during the Deuba`s tenuer.In our country only the Maoist force can confront and able to challange and defy with all these unseen but sure to be happened incidents.
It is necessary for every citizens of Nepal to be ready to confront with incoming denger with bravely.It is not an appropreat time to mocking.Let us unite under the banner of Republic Nepal.
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Quote from: Nirmal Ghimire on February 17, 2008, 02:30:48 AM
Perhaps no one needs to worry or be terrorized by Prachanda being one of the candidate for the head of the state.This would give a right messaage inside and outside the country that an ordinary citizen who has a political ideology and political determination to serve the people is going to be elected by the Adult franchise.It's obviously going to be a reliable democratic pratice infront of the democratic world;Europe,Canada,switzerland,India(except hindu ultra radicals).Who have always thought,if ever in life,we'd be able to get rid of Royal labyrinth of which we're unfortunately the social prisioners,the royal brigade took us for grant ,for 250 years they played the country as if it were their personal gamble.Having the most poor people in the country,they enjoyed an extremely luxurious life and succeeded to gather an immense wealth of which there're not any accurate record and finally made us be dependent on foreign aids.Let's not be the jailbirds of this dynasty who has lost its relevance because of their own deeds,royal massacre,prohibition on freedom,drunkard princes killing general people and many more things that would take time and space to explain it here.I'll have to say clearly that in western world he is known as despotic,incoherent and a hindu radical who is ready to die and kill for the sake of ultra hinduism,In europe I've not found any newspaper praising him for being the King of poor nepali people.So,let's not doubt about his image infront of democratic people.He might have some western friends and that's not a surprise but the one who would be supporting him to cease with the state power,is for sure,might be non other than a snob who is trapped in royal hospitality inside the palace.For educated people the HUMAN ZOO is no more interesting.He is not my king because they've never thought of poor and needy children.He is not my God because a god never treats people according to their surnames,and make fun of women,obliguing them to be males' slaves.His forefathers aren't my ideals because they imposed their norms to reign upon the peaceful cultural population;newars,maithilis in names of national unity.now many of our newari and other friends who have their mother tongue other than nepali rarely speaks and can write their idiom.Their languages are unfortunately less considerable for these imperialist nepali speaking royal family.For the first time in our history we'll write our consititution amongst all.This is truely something that most democratic countries would like to hear.for them now they don't need to feed this Monarchy instead of needy and poor people.Many times my colleagues used to say"really we don't understand how these poor countries come to ask for help when they've dictators and expensive Kings in their own country".now at least I can say that now we protest it openly and do whatever comes peacefully to abolish them forever.
Prachanda would be 100 times better than this despotic king although there is a long way ahead for maoists to reach upto there.Frankly speaking they improve from their past mistakes.Yes,perhaps if maintained their attitudes,.they can have a majority with leftists forces.But it's not so easy as it is being dreamed by them.Hard work ,less ostentatious activities and warm confidence are some points they need to take into consideration while approaching people.I give them moral support as they fought against the social discrimination though i differ on their style of accomplishing it bynow.We ought to do much more to erradicate feudalism,casteism and nepotism which are the long runned social curse in our society and it can't go like this in a modern country.The NC,UML,RPP,RJP are the politcal factions who prefer to be lived in this system.Their leaders do follow casteism,nepotism and religious discrimination(they get and obligue to marry between their cast,many have got more than two wives,they've house maids who normally belong to so called dalits and barrs them to enter into their kitchen,follow blindly the religious extremism by sacrificing animals,devoting children etc etc.żAre they going to give a real change?Of course not even in my dreams.The hope now relys on young generation who will have to fight the last but the effective one to make nepal free of discrimination and social disparities,but by our votes,there is no need of waging arm struggle.we do have enough politcal population and we need to defeat all these old and tired political actors who are the continuation of old regime.
MAOISTS ARE THE NECESSARY BUT NOT THE SUFFICIENT FORCE TO LEAD THE COUNTRY INTO THE JUST and PROSPEROUS STATE.
I think we are concerned about our country and identity rather an “Adult franchise.” Early 90s have bought us so many Franchises that it became main “Mantra” in business world all over the world. Because of this Franchise, many businesses thrived in U.S. and Europe. Almost bankrupt Wal-Mart became the leading industry in U.S. creating many jobs and helping many communities from goods made in China, India, and Bangladesh. Yes, indeed Adult Franchise is good. It creates opportunities, jobs, and helps community to sustain its normal routine. But in reality, thriving community or society is far from the sight. Industry like Wal-Mart is making money and gaining points in Nasqudak and Dow-Jones but it is also creating a business vacuum in U.S. society. Of course, it creates jobs and opportunities such as Cashiers, managers, and directors but if we really look at these jobs in U.S. market, it is the least paying jobs. These jobs don’t even come close to what they would make if the goods were manufactured in U.S. Therefore, people in southern state have lost so many textile industries in U.S. and many more similar industries had to go out of business because of this so called Franchise. Even a private business owner has to abandon his business when a Franchise like Wal-Mart or Seven Eleven moves into the market. Therefore, my good friends, Franchise is only good for those who are rich are powerful, not for poor and helpless. Please don’t treat my county like “Adult Franchise”. It is a county with identity and history. Let’s fight for it.
I am not convinced that such an ‘’Adult Franchise” would be a democratic one. In fact democracy is a dynasty if we look into the “VEDAS”. Now a day so called democracy is just a western way of exploiting poor and needy world and implementing their reign. Look closely to the history of both Communism and Capitalism. Both are the fruits of Western civilization. Communism was written in France and France is the prosperous countries in the world. And the country that adapted communism like China and South Korea still has its half the population under poverty. We don’t even have to talk about former USSR to take a good example of Communism. Similarly, democracy that these days we all talk and fight about is also meaning less. The U.S. goes into Iraq and defends its right for freedom and thousands dies everyday in CNN and BBC. Of course, freedom needs sacrifice but boy more than hundred thousands sacrifice is enough I believe. U.S. is in Iraq because it needs oil which it was relying on Iran before the dawn of Shahs. But when Shahs were gone U.S. needed an alternative source without drilling in Alaska. Anyway it is the democracy. We should fight for it and bring down every single body that is standing in front of it because we need freedom. Therefore, country like U.S. that created a concept of Freedom is secure and richer but freedom fighting county like Iraq and Afghanistan including South Asian and African countries are still fighting with a burning torch and marching for democracy. But I don’t know for how long. I think we should stop here and think about alternative.
Talking about Europeans who defy our institution and history, ask themselves why are there still many monarchies thriving in Europe with its identity and history? Therefore as in my earlier argument Nepali shouldn’t abolish its institution and history in order to write a new history. We still can write our new history in the same book and deal with autocracies of Royal family and its followers. Because for educated like Europeans and Americans, “Human Zoo” is very interesting. They pay $ 25.00 in U.S. to get into the exhibition of preserved dead human being. And interestingly, such culture was started in European nation called Germany, same country where the first form of Country and sovereignty was decided in 1648 A.D. Another interesting fact is that the dead bodies put into exhibition in New York are believed to be the prosecuted political prisoners of China. If educated society like American will pay $ 25.00 for dead body then guess how much they will pay to get into alive “Human Zoo’’. There is much to know and learn. And for your dilemma about the traditional culture such as Newars, Dalits, and other loosing its ground then I would still support the institution because I feel more pride in institution than myself being a Newar. Country comes first to me than my Newar heritage. Therefore, you shouldn’t worry about other tongue loosing ground because I assure you it is being preserved and let’s not abolish the entire history just to show your friends.
You wanted to come peacefully but you didn’t realize the fact that Mr. Prachanda came after knocking down more than 13000 Nepalese lives. He didn’t come peacefully. It costs you and me 13000 brothers and sisters dead. Therefore, he is not peaceful. He is frightening and scary black cloud which could bring the rein in our progress.
And lastly, I absolutely agree with youth voice and getting rid of old generations but beware these young generation are not experienced enough as well as haven’t seen outside the Political Pandora’s Box. Therefore, our move should be slow and cautious, preserving our identity and history. I strongly believe that we can achieve this if we don’t listen to others and follow our own guts to determine our destination. After all we are all Nepali.
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Prachanda reaffirms his presidential "dream"
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February 17, 2008, 11:21:21 AM »
"turn Nepal as one of the richest countries in the world within two decades"
-So, does it mean that he wants to rule Nepal till he dies or changing a single term to 20 years is their next demand.
"Prachanda will contest the CA election from Rolpa and Kathmandu."
-He is not even sure that he himself will win form the "supposed capital" of maoists and is running from two places and expects his party to win everywhere to make him the president.
Let him and his party dream, there is no harm on dreaming.
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February 17, 2008, 02:55:41 PM »
Fuck you Prachande.. Laaz chaina hai ta marya shyal. Jungle baata niskine bittikai ma Election ladera Neta huna lai jana yudha suru gareko haina bhanthis ta.. ani tero chamcha haru le feri naya terrorist party khole bhaye hiana ta? Mades ma aaka 8-10 wota aaka activitist sabai terai bardan hun.. aru kati jamauchas hai kulangar...
Ani ko Mr. ho yo.. Chor haru le Weapons UN lau bujayo bhanne. Tyo camp ma basne sabai villege ka innocet haru hun bhanne thaha cha? Ani tini haru ko real terrorist haru YCL bhayera KTM ma day-robbery gari rakheko thaha chaina ki ke ho.. Ali ali hatiyar tyo UN ko box ma rakhera ke huncha.. I think its more safe than keeping outside due to environmental factors. Tyo box ko chabi tai kukur haru sangai cha..
Asti bhakhar, Shiva ratri ko lagi RNA le just demostration garna chitwan baata mini-tuck haru colour garera lyauda India baata weapons lyayo bhanera sabai hatiyar liyera baato ma aako birseko ho? Ani pachi sabai tuck capture garera check garda kai na paye pachi India mai lukayo bhanera claim gareko.. hahahaha... freaking crazy haru...
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February 17, 2008, 03:31:11 PM »
He knows how to kill and create chaos not to rule .. thats why Barking Dog Seldom Bite
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"Adult Franchise" means the universal right to vote, not any commercial concept.In europe people don't die of hunger and minor diseases and the monarchy doesn't act if it were the God of general people.Their salary compared to our compatriots contribution(tax and revenue) to the useless monarchy is nothing.Spaniards pay 19 cents/year and their per capita income is 26000 euros,Belgians spend 40 cents,dutch pay 30 cents etc etc but nepalese people's 250 dollars/year and see how the royal family lives their life."HUMAN ZOO",sorry to say that the person who quoted my comment has less knowledge about it!I'll let him/her to guess the real meaning of it.The exposition on dead body is an exposition not the live zoo of living people.And to say that we've 36 casts and creed is something funny for general people who have gone to schools and gained enough intellectual cooeficient and WHO RESIST RACSISM as if they were the breeds of a bunch of horses,GOT IT?THANKS
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DREAM ON SON,DEMOCRACY GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO PUT FORTH YOUR WILDEST IMAGINATION. THE OLD KING ALSO DREAMS OF BECOMING A DICTATOR AGAIN.
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RALLY FOR A REPUBLIC
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Maoist cadres obstruct RPP chairman, 1 arrested
Kantipur Report
SINDHUPALCHOWK, March 8 - Armed cadres of CPN-Maoist on Saturday obstructed Rastriya Prajatantra Party (RPP) Chairman Pashupati Shumsher Rana from going to Sindhupalchowk district to campaign for the Constituent Assembly (CA) polls.
RPP Chairman Rana was on his way to electoral constituency no. 3 of the district at about 11 am today.
Rana has been escorted to the district by security personnel and the party activists.
A Maoist cadre was arrested along with his weapons following the incident.
Posted on: 2008-03-08 02:52:39 (Server Time)
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Does any body cares what he dreams about? Let him have his dream for he has the right to dream. What we have to do is to vote logically and ethically with good conscience without any pressure from any body. Everyone should be allowed to vote including the King.
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UML candidate 'abducted' in Manang
Mangal Gurung, the CPN (UML) candidate in Manang district, has been abducted, allegedly by Maoist cadres.
Gurung was abducted from the district Sunday morning.
UML general secretary Madhav Kumar Nepal told reporters in Kathmandu that the Maoists might have abducted Gurung to force him to withdraw his candidacy. He added that details of abduction case were yet to come.
He said that such activities could jeopardise the relation between the two parties.
The CPN-Maoist is yet to react to this allegation.
Maoist central leader and local development minister Dev Gurung is contesting election from Manang. nepalnews.com mk Mar 09 08
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